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In article <mars7778.766898818@nova> [e-mail] (Charles E Marshall) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Charles E Marshall)
>Subject: Re: Trumpet sucks. Anyone else?
>Date: 21 Apr 94 03:26:58 GMT

>>Can Trumpet all together, (although I kind of like the news reader)
>>and get "The Windows Internet Tour Guide" by Michael Fraase,
>>Ventana Press, ISBN 1-56604-081-7, for about $25.
>>It comes with FREE Chameleon slip software that is
>>ROCK SOLID STABLE. And a whole chapter devoted
>>to installing and configuring the software, And real nice
>>FTP, Telnet, and Mail apps, And it works with about 15
>>other apps which I have tested. (including Mosaic).

>The DOCS sound real nice, but could I use it on top of a PPP driver if I
>wanted to?  I need to use PPP to connect to my service here (MERIT).
>--

 It comes with a PPP driver which should work with MERIT.
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Subject: Re: CHAT CLIENT that supports voice  (kinda like a telephone call) ?

Well, I've been writing such a voice telephone program for Windows,
entitled "Internet Telephone."  I *HOPE* to have the first version (beta
perhaps) available by the first week of May.  I have exams starting in a
week but I'm going to do my best to get it out.  Much of what I need for it
to work is already in place.

Actually, it's pretty nice.  It has dynamic sampling rates based on data
transfer speed, call screening, an answering machine, caller ID, and some
other neat features.

Anyone who would like more info (or would like to inspire me to vigorously
work on this project :) can email me at  [e-mail].

I'll be sure to post to alt.winsock when I FTP my program to various sites.

                        - Rich

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Richard L. Ahrens                                   [e-mail]
Wharton School of Business                          University of Pennsylvania
Corporate Finance / Information Systems                           Class of '96
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Subject: Re: WFW TCP/IP-32 Marbeta problems with dual 3509 in Eisa

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Justin Hogeterp) writes:



>I would very much like to run the new march beta of MS TCP/32 but

You may want to get the April Beta instead.

>I cannot get WFW3.11 to recognize my second 3Com 3C509 in my
>EISA machine.  I have tried specifying slots, addresses, etc, but
>to no avail.  Has anyone had similar problems?  I suspect it may be
>the quirky PROTOCOL.INI writes that the install/setup does, but I
>cannot tell what is and isn't correct.

I haven't tried two crads in one machine, so I can't help you there.

>My windows network still runs fine, as everything binds and is
>hunky-dory.  I get the error "ELNK32$ adapter is not functioning...".

>Finally, is it possible to run the TCP/IP over NETBIOS from one adapter?
>(with 2 physical connections - one thick, one thin coax?)

I run NETBIOS and TCP/IP on one card, on the same network (NTAS server and
WFW stations).  It works fine.  I don't think that having two
connections to the same card is going to work tho.

 >Justin

Gerald

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Subject: Re: Trumpet sucks.  Anyone else?

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Marshal Perlman [ARCS]) writes:
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>From: [e-mail] (Marshal Perlman [ARCS])
>Subject: Re: Trumpet sucks.  Anyone else?
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>dialler is just so damn buggy that I sometimes feel like taking a shotgun to the
>: computer.  Do I have any options here?
>: Any help would be useful.

>Dude... it's free. Be glad you have it.

>Other wise, fork up $599.

I haven't had too much trouble with the driver itself but it seems to complain
about the clients not calling WSACleanup alot. I think the clients aren't
plugged to Windows totally. Recovering from problems in windows can get pretty
hard to manage.
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Subject: Re: A question on WinVN

In article <2p09o5$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Alan Chan) says:
>
>Hi all,
>
>        I got a stupid question to ask on WinVN, when I compose a mail it
>ask me about the time stamp, it says I should put "SET TZ=EST5EDT" in the
>AUTOEXEC.BAT, ok... since I know I'm in MDT/MST time zone, so I put it as
>"SET TZ=MST5MDT", but I don't know whether it's right, I don't know what
>the number 5 represents, should I put 5 for my time zone too? And what's
>the difference between TZ=MDT5MST and TZ=MST5MDT? Which way should I put
>it now under my time zone?
>        Hope to get some help...
>        Thanks in advance...
>
>Alan...
>_____________________________________________________________________________
>Alan Chan                               |Email: [e-mail]
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It's not a stupid question!  The "5" represents the number of hours from your
time zone to Greenwich Mean Time (the origin of coordinates for planet earth).
Mountain Time is 7 hours behind, so you should put MST7MDT.  I don't know
what is required for people east of Greenwich.  The convention comes from Unix.
Incidentally, pilots use Zulu time (= Greenwich Mean Time), so any weather
map you get via Gopher or Mosaic from the National Weather Service will be
time-stamped something like 160000Z, meaning 16:00 GMT, or 9:00 your time,
if you're not on daylight savings time. (8:00 if you are)

Steve Eckhardt  ([e-mail])
Opinions?  Those are *facts* son.  (been in Texas too long)
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Subject: client/server apps?

Since my last posting received no response, I'll try again.  Does anybody
have any experience doing client/server apps on win32s?  My employer wants
to provide the same mix of client/server apps under Win32s that are already
in existence on UNIX platforms.  They give me two requirements:

Requirement 1: Support any mixture of clients and servers across Windows and
  UNIX platforms using IP (Internet Protocol via TCP/UDP/RPC).

Requirement 2: If all clients/servers end up on a single Windows/PC host,
  no network adapter shall be required. (i.e. virtual local loop-back).

Can Winsock handle this?  Or, will I have to use different protocols
depending on whether the clients and servers are local or remote?  Or, even
if all this is possible, will performance totally suck (on an 8Mb 386-33)?
Or, maybe it all depends on the which Winsock DLL and driver I use -- some
do, some don't?

I read the ws_guide and the MSJ article "Networking under Windows" (Nov 93)
which left me more confused than enlightened.  Can anybody suggest other
readings on this topic?

Any experiences, suggestions, or bits of advice would be most appreciated.

In case you are interested, I'm working on a distributed C/C++ development
environment where you can download and debug C/C++ apps over the network (or
locally) on various targets (x86, 960, 68k, Power-PC, etc).

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Subject: Please help: wfwg, winsock, Novell

Hello,

I have just installed wfwg 3.11 and am a little confused.  Up until now I had
a wonderful Novell conection, and was running Trumpet Winsock very
efficiently.  After installing wfwg I have lost the fucntionality of Trumpet
Winsock.

Let me explain.  I have enabled the Microsoft network, and added support for
Novell when wfwg installed.  My default protocol is the Microsoft NetBeui, but
my drivers set up also shows an ipx/spx protocol.

Winsock loads fine and does not report any errors, but the applications
that use Winsock do not run.  e.g qvtnet starts, but can't complete a telnet
session (won't complete a login), ws_ftp won't finish a connection after
logging in, (can't get a directory listing is where it stops), trumpet
newsreader connects, but won't finish a scan.

If I restart my system, start the net with \windows\net start, and then run
Windows WITHOUT loading the odihlp.exe file, I get an error message saying
that network support is unavailable.  However, I can use my Novell connection,
and am able to use my winsock apps (that is how I am writing this now).

I have read that when using wfwg and novell there is an NDIS shim called
ds_pkt or soemthing like that.  Since I am using a mix of Novell and wfwg
should I use this?

What is NDIS?  Am I using this now?  How do I find out?

I am really quite confused and would appreciate any help.  Excerpts of my
startup files are shown below:
[autoexec.bat]
D:\WINDOWS\net start
d:\novell\\wd8003e -w 0x60 10 0x280 0xc800   ***
LH /L:1,9296 d:\novell\LSL
LH /L:1,17904 d:\novell\SMCPLUS
LH /L:1,30576 d:\novell\IPXODI
D:\WINDOWS\odihlp.exe
LH /L:1,5088 d:\novell\ODIPKT 0 98
LH /L:1,4144 d:\novell\WINPKT 0X62
LH /L:1,69376 d:\novell\NETX /ps=molebio

*** tried with and without the packet driver
[config.sys]
DEVICE=D:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS

[net.cfg]
LOCAL PRINTERS=0
#
#       NET.CFG File for SMCPLUS
#
Link Driver SMCPLUS
   Frame Ethernet_II
   Frame Ethernet_802.3
   Frame Ethernet_802.2
   Frame Ethernet_SNAP
    Port #1 280 20
    Mem  #1 000C8000 2000/10
    Int  #1 10


I am not sure if anymore info is necessary.
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Subject: Re: where can I get a X emulator for windows?


>>I need an Xwindows emulator for ms-windows.  Does anyone know where zi can get a copy?

>What do you mean by emulator? Do you want your windows to look like on X, or
>do you want to see X-Applications (running on another machine) on your screen?

>If the later are you willing to pay for it? I haven't seen a Public
>Domain Server so far.

you havent tried the commonly known program xwindemo (for windows, can be
found on different anon. FTP servers. It is great software and fail far less
when some expensive packages.

>We bought one, and it's working great with FTP's PC/TCP Software.

There are many products around, with different functionality and prizing.
Yoe better give part of the money to spent to authors of excellent PD-
Software!

Stephan

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